A Wild Rose by Any Other Name

Main story quest #30, level 17. 100th of 173 in play order.

Quest giver: Minfilia, The Waking Sands (X 6.9, Y 6.1).

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Steps

Speak with Thancred.
Speak with Isembard at Camp Drybone.

Journal

Minfilia is waiting to hear whether or not you will pledge your support to the Scions of the Seventh Dawn.
Taken by an inexplicable urge to wax lyrical, you decide to signify your commitment to the cause by incorporating the order's password, “wild rose,” into a line of improvised verse. Betraying no embarrassment, Minfilia accepts your whimsical utterance in the spirit it was intended, and welcomes you to the Scions. She then introduces you to its leading members: the scholars of Sharlayan, some of whom are familiar to you. Without further ado, you are assigned your first task─to investigate a series of crimes committed in Ul'dah, which the Scions suspect to be primal-related. Speak with Thancred, the debonair bard, to learn the details of your mission.
Thancred believes that the caravan robbery and the recent spate of disappearances are connected. He suggests that you begin your investigation by visiting the scene of the suspected abductions. Make your way to Camp Drybone in eastern Thanalan, and seek the cooperation of a man named Isembard.
Arriving at Camp Drybone, you speak with Isembard, who offers you his full cooperation in the investigation.

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FF nod The password 'wild rose' is a nod to Final Fantasy II. There the rebels of the Wild Rose Rebellion use their name as a password to tell who is one of them.

Title reference The title plays on 'a rose by any other name would smell as sweet' from Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet: a name does not change what a thing is. Here the rose is the Scions' password, 'wild rose'.

Characters 9

Y'shtola
Y'shtola is with the other Scions, waiting to hear if you join them.
What you know from earlier quests 6
- #37 Lurkers in the Grotto: Her name is Y'shtola; she studies aether and hunts the kidnappers too. After you beat an enraged goobbue together, she finds a sailor's knife in it and suspects pirates. Your talk of a towering crystal surprises her. Staelwyrn vouches for her.
- #47 Just Deserts: After the golem fight, near Y'shtola you see a vision of her past: she fears the beast tribes may summon primals (summoned gods), as Louisoix foretold. She can see aether. She calls herself a naturalist, links the pirates to the Sahagin, and takes Sevrin home.
- #69 Feint and Strike: Y'shtola arrives when she senses the masked mage and fights beside you. She names him an Ascian, one of the "Bringers of Chaos" who steer the beast tribes. She is a Sharlayan and, surprised you know it, decides you have "a special gift."
- #71 A Mizzenmast Repast: Y'shtola sees an extraordinary glow and names it one of the Crystals of Light. She recalls the vision of a towering crystal you had after your encounter with the goobbue, and concludes that you bathed in Her Light. Merlwyb agrees.
- #97 Into a Copper Hell: She appears after you help the woman, saying she has watched you since you left Limsa Lominsa. She praises your humble, selfless deeds, but your visions interest her most; a friend shares that gift. She invites you to join the Scions of the Seventh Dawn.
- #99 The Scions of the Seventh Dawn: Tataru is startled when you say you are here at Y'shtola's request, and quickly lets you in.
Louisoix Leveilleur
Louisoix does not appear in this quest. Minfilia speaks of him while talking about you.
What you know from earlier quests 4
- #47 Just Deserts: Y'shtola says the rising seas and the falling lesser moon are as Louisoix foretold. He called on the Twelve, Eorzea's guardian gods, to prevent the Seventh Umbral Era (an age of calamity), then vanished in a blinding light.
- #71 A Mizzenmast Repast: Your vision of the final moments of the Battle of Carteneau also shows Louisoix.
- #73 The Lominsan Envoy: Kan-E-Senna calls him Archon Louisoix. She says he might have explained the mysteries of Carteneau, but like so many, he never returned from that battle.
- #99 The Scions of the Seventh Dawn: Minfilia says you came back after five long years, just as Louisoix said you would. She hopes he is watching, and that he may now rest in peace, his mission fulfilled.
Yda
Yda is with the other Scions, waiting to hear if you join them.
What you know from earlier quests 2
- #97 Into a Copper Hell: Yda cries "Case closed!" when the bully backs off, and teases that you were kind of dragged into the dodo-meat business. Yda names their order: the Scions of the Seventh Dawn, "defenders of justice." Only Momodi may know.
- #99 The Scions of the Seventh Dawn: In one version of this scene, you come at the request of Yda and Papalymo, and Tataru is startled to hear their names.
Papalymo
Papalymo is with the other Scions, waiting to hear if you join them.
What you know from earlier quests 2
- #97 Into a Copper Hell: Papalymo has watched you since you left Gridania: you served well as envoy and helped people without pay. Papalymo offers to explain your visions, mentions a friend with the same gift, and asks you to join their cause. Momodi knows where to find them.
- #99 The Scions of the Seventh Dawn: In one version of this scene, you come at the request of Yda and Papalymo, and Tataru is startled to hear their names.
Thancred
Thancred is with the other Scions, waiting to hear if you join them.
What you know from earlier quests 2
- #97 Into a Copper Hell: Thancred has watched you since you left Ul'dah and praises your work as envoy and your selflessness, though the rescue was a happy accident. Thancred asks about your visions, knows a woman with the same talent, and invites you to join the Scions.
- #99 The Scions of the Seventh Dawn: In one version of this scene, you come at Thancred's request, and Tataru is startled to hear the name.
Tataru
Tataru is at the Scions' base as they wait for your answer.
What you know from earlier quests 1
- #99 The Scions of the Seventh Dawn: Startled, she first takes you for a shady merchant or a pushy peddler, then welcomes you warmly and tells the Antecedent, Minfilia. She brings Minfilia papers. A chart note says she is twenty-one, a beginner singer, and sings while doing her sums.
Minfilia
Minfilia waits for your answer. Do you pledge your support to the Scions of the Seventh Dawn?
What you know from earlier quests 1
- #99 The Scions of the Seventh Dawn: She welcomes you home after five years, as Louisoix said. The Scions protect Eorzea from the primals, godlike beings. Your power, the Echo, shows people's pasts and lets you understand any speech. She has it too, asks your help, and shares the password "wild rose."
Urianger
Urianger is a Sharlayan scholar and one of the Scions' leading members. Y'shtola says he runs all affairs within these halls.
Isembard
Isembard is the unofficial leader of Camp Drybone in eastern Thanalan, where most of the missing people were last seen.

What happens in this quest spoilers for this quest

Y'shtola is an Archon who looks after Limsa Lominsa. She says their leader was taken from them at the Battle of Carteneau. Then they found Minfilia and others with the Echo, a rare talent, and founded the Scions of the Seventh Dawn.
Louisoix Leveilleur: Minfilia mentions Louisoix. She believes the power he called upon to save your life is the likely reason no one remembers you.
Yda is the masked woman. Minfilia says she is an Archon, one of the Sharlayan scholars who stayed to protect Eorzea. She watches over the Twelveswood with Papalymo. She greets you cheerfully and was sure you'd agree.
Papalymo is an Archon, one of the Sharlayan scholars who stayed to protect Eorzea. He watches over the Twelveswood with Yda. He was confident you would help, and he calls Thancred their man in Ul'dah.
Thancred is an Archon, a charming bard, and the Scions' man in Ul'dah. He explains the caravan robbery and the missing people, which point to the Amalj'aa, worshipers of the primal Ifrit. He sends you to Isembard at Camp Drybone.
Tataru: Minfilia introduces Tataru as the Scions' clerk, who makes sure everything runs smoothly. Tataru greets you warmly.
Minfilia welcomes you to the Scions and introduces its leaders. She thinks people forget you because of the power Louisoix used to save your life. She asks you to lead an investigation into crimes in Ul'dah that may involve a primal, a godlike being.
Urianger greets you with the words of a dear friend: dawn may banish even the darkest night. He is glad to meet you. He tells Minfilia that documents from the Students of Baldesion have arrived. You can ask him whenever you have questions.
Isembard has no official title, but the camp's people look to him to lead. Minfilia sent word that you were coming and warned him about the Amalj'aa. He gives his word to help bring the victims home safely.

Dialogue 67 lines

Accepting the quest

Minfilia

I take it you will help us.

Wonderful! I knew you wouldn't let us down!

Forgive me for treating you as a stranger. I know you deserve better than this, considering all you've done for the realm.

It remains unclear why no one remembers you. We can only assume that it is a consequence of the power that Louisoix invoked to save your life.

But irrespective of the cause, know that whatever shroud has fallen upon people's memories, there will surely be a way to lift it.

Thank you for understanding.

DE Ganz sicher! ‘Quite certain!’ English thanks you for understanding; German instead exclaims that it is quite certain.

But come, I would introduce you to your friends in the order.

Tell me, does the name Sharlayan ring any bells?

It used to be one of Eorzea's six city–states, and was situated in the northwest of Aldenard.

The Sharlayans were the keepers of wisdom both old and new. Their mastery over magic and aether was unsurpassed, and even the Garleans knew to fear them.

Among their number, there were a noble few who devoted their lives to safeguarding the future of Eorzea.

When the realm began its descent into chaos, and their countrymen fled for the motherland, they alone chose to remain here. These noble men and women were called the Archons.

DE Als der Niedergang Eorzeas sich abzuzeichnen begann, waren sie es, die vor der Katastrophe warnten und für die Zukunft Eorzeas kämpften. ‘When Eorzea's decline began to show, it was they who warned of the catastrophe and fought for Eorzea's future.’ English says they alone stayed when their countrymen fled; German says they warned of the catastrophe.

Those same brave souls stand before you now.

The masked woman is Yda, and beside her is Papalymo. The two are charged with surveying the Twelveswood.

Yda

Hello there!

Papalymo

Well come!

I had every confidence that you would agree to help us.

Yda

Me too!

Okay, my turn to introduce someone! That there is Thancred!

FR Ce beau gosse, c'est Thancred ! ‘This handsome guy is Thancred!’ English simply points him out; French calls Thancred a handsome guy.

Papalymo

He is our man here in Ul'dah, jewel of the desert.

Thancred

Welcome to the team!

I never doubted that you'd come!

If I may, the lovely maiden beside me is named Y'shtola. Limsa Lominsa has the pleasure of being under her care.

Y'shtola

Greetings.

I have been expecting you.

Last but not least is Urianger, who presides over all affairs within these halls. Pray seek him out whenever you have questions.

Urianger

Dawn may banish even the darkest night...

JA 月明輝けども必ずや暁迎えん……。 ‘Though the moonlight shines bright, the dawn shall surely be greeted...’ English has dawn banishing even the darkest night; Japanese says dawn will come though the moon shines bright.

...The words of a dear friend. I am glad of our meeting.

DE Deine strahlende Präsenz wird ihr den Weg bereiten. ‘Your radiant presence will pave its way.’ English credits the saying to a dear friend and welcomes the meeting; German says your radiant presence will pave its way.

Y'shtola

At the Battle of Carteneau, our leader was taken from us. But we did not stray from our purpose.

We sought out Minfilia and others with her talent, and together established the Scions of the Seventh Dawn.

Minfilia

Along with the Archons, those blessed with the Echo play a pivotal role in our endeavor to forge a brighter tomorrow for the realm.

DE Seitdem haben sich viele fähige Leute unserem Bund angeschlossen und gemeinsam versuchen wir, Eorzeas Zukunft zu gestalten. ‘Since then, many capable people have joined our order, and together we try to shape Eorzea's future.’ English names the Archons and those blessed with the Echo; German speaks only of many capable people joining.

Oh, I should also introduce you to Tataru, our clerk. She ensures that everything runs smoothly.

Tataru

Pleased to make your acquaintance!

Minfilia

In time, I hope you will come to think of us as family.

But without further ado...

I would assign you your first task.

Urianger. Have the documents arrived from the Students of Baldesion?

DE Urianger, bist du die Unterlagen von Baldesions Gelehrten durchgegangen? ‘Urianger, have you gone through the documents from Baldesion's scholars?’ English asks whether the documents have arrived; German asks whether Urianger has gone through them.

Urianger

Aye, my lady, they arrived but recently.

DE Ja, sie waren sehr aufschlussreich. ‘Yes, they were very illuminating.’ English says the documents arrived only recently; German says they were very illuminating.

Minfilia

We have received a request for aid from the Immortal Flames.

Thancred, would you do the honors?

Thancred

It would be my pleasure.

Some days ago, a crystal caravan registered to Amajina & Sons Mineral Concern was waylaid and divested of its cargo.

But there is more. Within a bell of the robbery, several people were reported missing from the shantytown outside the city.

Minfilia

At a glance, one would assume the involvement of bandits, kidnappers, and coincidence.

Such crimes are hardly uncommon, and the Immortal Flames deal with their like almost every day.

However, this time we have reason to believe that a primal is involved.

Thancred

Aye, the evidence left behind implicates the Amalj'aa, who are known worshipers of Ifrit.

FR C'est la tribu d'hommes-bêtes qui vit dans le Thanalan. ‘That is the beast tribe that lives in Thanalan.’ English calls the Amalj'aa known worshipers of Ifrit; French calls them the beast tribe living in Thanalan.
JA おそらく、首謀者はウルダハに棲むアマルジャ族だ。 ‘Most likely, the masterminds are the Amalj'aa who dwell in Ul'dah.’ English calls the Amalj'aa known worshipers of Ifrit; Japanese describes them as dwelling in Ul'dah.

If we then consider the objects that were taken, there is no room left for doubt─the crimes were committed in the name of a primal.

DE Wir vermuten, dass sie die Verbrechen im Namen ihres Primae Ifrit begangen haben. ‘We suspect that they committed the crimes in the name of their primal Ifrit.’ English says there is no room left for doubt; German only says they suspect it.

Minfilia

That you may better understand the nature of our struggle with the primals, I would have you play the leading role in this investigation.

You have my thanks.

If there is aught you wish to know, I recommend you speak with Thancred. He is well versed in the affairs of Ul'dah.

Thancred

Ever at your service, fair lady/dear fellow!

Minfilia

We Scions have but one objective: to safeguard the future of Eorzea. Among our gravest concerns are the godlike beings known as the primals. Long have we striven to find a lasting solution to the threat they pose.

FR Ce n'est pas un combat facile, mais sache que faire partie de notre groupe présente aussi certains avantages. ‘It is not an easy fight, but know that being part of our group also has certain advantages.’ English says they have long sought a lasting solution to the primal threat; French says membership brings advantages.

I know not what it is you desire for yourself, nor what it was that first brought you to Eorzea, but I firmly believe that the power we possess was given to us for a purpose. Pray consider this when you give me your answer, [name].

FR J'espère de tout cœur que tu accepteras notre proposition. ‘I hope with all my heart that you will accept our proposal.’ English argues their power was given to them for a purpose; French only hopes you accept the proposal.
FR Si c'est le cas, j'aimerais que tu prononces notre signe de reconnaissance. ‘If so, I would like you to speak our sign of recognition.’ English asks you to consider this when answering; French asks you to say the order's recognition sign.
DE Es ist keine einfache Aufgabe, aber jemand muss sie in Angriff nehmen. ‘It is not an easy task, but someone has to take it on.’ English argues their power was given to them for a purpose; German says someone simply has to take the task on.
JA 平坦な道ではないけれど、あなたにも利があるはず。 ‘It is not a smooth road, but there should be a benefit for you as well.’ English argues their power was given to them for a purpose; Japanese says there should be something in it for you.

Small? No. Worthy? Undeniably. We labor for the good of all the realm.

FR Le courage est une qualité précieuse pour les Héritiers de la Septième Aube. ‘Courage is a precious quality for the Scions of the Seventh Dawn.’ English answers whether the work is small or worthy; French speaks of courage as a precious quality.
DE Mut brauchen wir alle. ‘We all need courage.’ English answers whether the work is small or worthy; German says everyone needs courage.
JA ええ、わたしたちの活動には勇気がいるわ。 ‘Yes, our work requires courage.’ English answers whether the work is small or worthy; Japanese says their work requires courage.

They are. Yet the risks we take are justified, given that which is at stake.

FR Hélas, la chance n'a pas toujours été de notre côté. ‘Alas, luck has not always been on our side.’ English says their risks are justified by what is at stake; French says luck has not always favored them.
DE Ich weiß, dass du einiges erlebt hast. ‘I know that you have been through a lot.’ English says their risks are justified by what is at stake; German says she knows you have been through a lot.
JA あなたにも、いろいろあったのね……。 ‘I-I see... so you have been through a lot too...’ English says their risks are justified by what is at stake; Japanese says you have been through a lot too.

Speak with Thancred.

Thancred

Ready to begin, are we? That's the spirit!

So then, your mission is to investigate a crystal robbery and a spate of abductions.

DE Was fängt man mit einer Menge Kristalle und ein paar Obdachlosen an? ‘What does one do with a heap of crystals and a few homeless people?’ English plainly states the mission; German asks what anyone would do with crystals and homeless people.

...Crimes which we believe to be connected. Assuming we are correct, it is like that any discoveries we make in relation to one will further our understanding of the other.

Now, since the attack on their caravan, our friends at Amajina & Sons Mineral Concern have doubled security over all their shipments.

In light of this, it is my judgment that the abductions should be our priority.

FR Cette piste sera peut-être difficile à explorer, alors nous devrions plutôt enquêter sur les disparitions mystérieuses des hameaux pauvres. ‘This lead may be difficult to explore, so we should rather investigate the mysterious disappearances in the poor hamlets.’ English bases the priority on what was just said; French says the robbery lead may be hard to pursue.

According to our preliminary findings, the majority of the missing were last seen in the vicinity of Camp Drybone, so that would seem a fine place to begin.

A fellow by the name of Isembard serves as the camp's de facto leader. Pay him a visit, and see that he gives us his full cooperation.

Speak with Isembard at Camp Drybone.

Isembard

Aye, I'm Isembard. Here to search for the missing folk, I take it?

Minfilia sent word that an adventurer fitting your description would be along.

She also warned us to be wary of the Amalj'aa. It seems we know who the culprits are, at the very least.

FR Les Amalj'aa semblent agités... apparemment, on les tient pour responsables de ces disparitions étranges. ‘The Amalj'aa seem restless... apparently, they are held responsible for these strange disappearances.’ English says she warned them to beware the Amalj'aa; French says the Amalj'aa seem agitated.

Now, I bear no official title at this camp, but the people here have come to look to me for leadership. You have my word that I'll do all I can to help see the victims safely returned.